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	<title>Comments on: PDN on Jill Greenberg, The Atlantic, and John McCain</title>
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		<title>By: Ruben Rehberger</title>
		<link>http://www.rachelhulin.com/blog/2008/09/pdn-on-jill-greenberg-the-atlantic-and-john-mccain.html/comment-page-1#comment-7036</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruben Rehberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to find out what blog system you are using? I&#8217;m having some minor security problems with my latest website and I&#8217;d like to find something more safe. Do you have any solutions?</p>
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		<title>By: Gato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wwow!</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Hoffas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hoffas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Mccain&#039;s advisors are making sure Mccain will not win the election.  They did no have  to use any of these photos for the cover of Atlantic.  They could have done a reshoot with any number of photographers.
You see in the oligarchy of the US government it is 8 years republicrat than 8 years demoncrat.  This whole system of the election is being controlled by the multi-national corporations whithin the govenment media complex.
Neither presidential candidate is qualified for the office.  They are simply puppets of government media complex, and will do the bidding of the multinational corporations (they fund both candidates heavily).
Jill Greenberg can shoot however she wants, but don&#039;t you think Mccain&#039;s advisors would have gone in with a certain request of style for the photographer.  Or used a photographer that would portray Mccain in a presidential light?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Mccain&#8217;s advisors are making sure Mccain will not win the election.  They did no have  to use any of these photos for the cover of Atlantic.  They could have done a reshoot with any number of photographers.<br />
You see in the oligarchy of the US government it is 8 years republicrat than 8 years demoncrat.  This whole system of the election is being controlled by the multi-national corporations whithin the govenment media complex.<br />
Neither presidential candidate is qualified for the office.  They are simply puppets of government media complex, and will do the bidding of the multinational corporations (they fund both candidates heavily).<br />
Jill Greenberg can shoot however she wants, but don&#8217;t you think Mccain&#8217;s advisors would have gone in with a certain request of style for the photographer.  Or used a photographer that would portray Mccain in a presidential light?</p>
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		<title>By: Tickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just kindof tired of her style, way before this. In 30+ years as a pro shooter, I&#039;ve taken many unintentionally unflattering shots of notable people, but they&#039;re staying in the archive. It&#039;s too easy to shoot ugly pictures and put funny captions on them. One needs empathy, and a sense of one&#039;s future prospects if one goes around mocking one&#039;s subjects.
Ms. Greenberg apparently is a little short in both departments. Consider the possibility that she may have been a slightly autistic, and that our dumping on her might be equally unkind. I&#039;m just saying, understanding and forgiveness is important.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just kindof tired of her style, way before this. In 30+ years as a pro shooter, I&#8217;ve taken many unintentionally unflattering shots of notable people, but they&#8217;re staying in the archive. It&#8217;s too easy to shoot ugly pictures and put funny captions on them. One needs empathy, and a sense of one&#8217;s future prospects if one goes around mocking one&#8217;s subjects.<br />
Ms. Greenberg apparently is a little short in both departments. Consider the possibility that she may have been a slightly autistic, and that our dumping on her might be equally unkind. I&#8217;m just saying, understanding and forgiveness is important.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill Greenberg, a name that will go down in photo history as.....
Who knows.   I know that I hope to never hear her name again, or to see her photographs published.
She betrayed her client and the subject.  Now our industry is taking on the chin with heavy duty oversight, longer embargoes and most likely, more approval hoops to jump through.
Thanks a bunch Jill!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill Greenberg, a name that will go down in photo history as&#8230;..<br />
Who knows.   I know that I hope to never hear her name again, or to see her photographs published.<br />
She betrayed her client and the subject.  Now our industry is taking on the chin with heavy duty oversight, longer embargoes and most likely, more approval hoops to jump through.<br />
Thanks a bunch Jill!</p>
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		<title>By: JonF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will all blow over very quickly I am sure and Jill Greenberg will continue her very successful career.
Now imagine for a minute, if you will, a photographer trying this same stunt with Obama.
Instant career death I assure you and headline news for weeks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will all blow over very quickly I am sure and Jill Greenberg will continue her very successful career.<br />
Now imagine for a minute, if you will, a photographer trying this same stunt with Obama.<br />
Instant career death I assure you and headline news for weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: brad Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect to creativity and the right to free speech, i think Jill has made an already tough business tougher. Die hard democrat that i am,i surely don&#039;t need four more years of the same crap that has taken place, but i think it was totally irresponsible for her to alienate her peers. Great job. Sounds like a president this country has had recently...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect to creativity and the right to free speech, i think Jill has made an already tough business tougher. Die hard democrat that i am,i surely don&#8217;t need four more years of the same crap that has taken place, but i think it was totally irresponsible for her to alienate her peers. Great job. Sounds like a president this country has had recently&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bradford Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradford Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A direct descendent of Edward Steichen&#039;s photograph of J P Morgan
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		<title>By: kickstand</title>
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		<dc:creator>kickstand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no fan of McCain, but I think the cover shot is gorgeous. He looks like a pugnacious fighter with a broken nose, coming back to finish the job. He&#039;s square-jawed and masculine. What&#039;s not to like?
The outtakes are maybe a different story, but they are outtakes. Who cares about outtakes?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of McCain, but I think the cover shot is gorgeous. He looks like a pugnacious fighter with a broken nose, coming back to finish the job. He&#8217;s square-jawed and masculine. What&#8217;s not to like?<br />
The outtakes are maybe a different story, but they are outtakes. Who cares about outtakes?</p>
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		<title>By: mike wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As soon as I saw your image of the child and McCain I knew it was Jill Greenberg even before reading the text. Part of me was hoping the other one was McCain as a child. :)   I think I first encountered Jill Greenberg&#039;s work on the cover of the current Focus Magazine. Now that one would have also been good to juxtapose under her image of McCain. The youth of tomorrow looking up and McCain and shedding a last tear after a long tantrum.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as I saw your image of the child and McCain I knew it was Jill Greenberg even before reading the text. Part of me was hoping the other one was McCain as a child. <img src='http://www.rachelhulin.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    I think I first encountered Jill Greenberg&#8217;s work on the cover of the current Focus Magazine. Now that one would have also been good to juxtapose under her image of McCain. The youth of tomorrow looking up and McCain and shedding a last tear after a long tantrum.</p>
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